Off to the Bundesverfassungsgericht it goes.
Posted on November 10, 2007 at 12:26 AM
November 9th:
- 1923: Hitler-Ludendorff putsch.
- 1938: Reichskristallnacht.
- 2007: Vorratsdatenspeicherung. (de)
The pattern here is clear.
Jep, today the Bundestag decided to go against the will of the people, against the Grundgesetz (The german constitution), and agaist the likeley decision of the European Court and the highest german court, and passed a law permitting the government to use all the peoples connection data, be it from internet or phones, for pretty much whatever. It also mandates ISPs to keep said data. This is, of course, to protect us from the terrorists!
Nevermind that the econonic impact of having to store all this data will pretty much kill small ISPs, worsening the situation on an already pretty monopolistic market.
Nevermind that studies showed that 99.9% of all that data will never be even requested by police, and that, obviously, the biggest part of all that data is about completley innocent people, a crass violation of people rights.
Nevermind that this creates a climate of fear, in which people are afraid to say what they think.
Nevermind that this data will be misused, by people inside the system, and computer criminals outside the system.
Nevermind that it’s trivial for actual criminals to work around this with the likes of TOR and with stong cryptography.
Nevermind that this is a slippery slope to worse laws, and that laws like this usually only exist in facist states, like the DDR.
Nevermind all this, we have to have this law, as there is no other way to protect us from the immense terrorist threat.
What follows now is the biggest number of lawsuits about a single issue ever brought before germans highest court (Over 7000 people, and all opposition parties will file suit). As this is so clearly against the fundamental right of informational self-determination, this law must go. Or the terrorists, wanting to destroy our freedoms, win.
- More info at Vorratsdatenspeicherung.de.
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It is unconscionable how ready governments are to take away liberty and freedoms from the people. It’s almost as if they are laying in wait for something, anything at all, to happen that will justify taking away freedoms.
This law has to be opposed, by everyone, for as long as it takes, day in and day out, everywhere the politician defending it shows their face, work day, weekend, holiday, business day, abroad, at home. Everywhere they go, someone should step up to them and -DEMAND- their freedom back.
We do not ask them to do this, it is done for the wrong reasons, it targets the wrong people, it does not help to fight the terrorists AT ALL [here’s a hint, smart politician: any terrorist who goes into a country where they know that this kind of blanket data mining takes place is NOT going to use traditional data channels to communicate. I mean, how fucking stupid do you think these guys are? I mean, the real terrorists, the pros who actually want to defeat the system?]
Moreover, doing the terrorists work for them does not seem like a very smart move. If they ‘hate us for our freedoms’, taking away our freedoms seems a little counter-intuitive, doesn’t it? Why do you worry about the terrorists when the politicians enact laws that are far more damaging than anything the terrorists could ever hope to accomplish by themselves. Bombs kill people, regrettably, but they do not take away freedoms in a country. It is the people who agree to give up these freedoms.
Are we so goddamned afraid of these terrorists that we are too shit-scared to live? These must be fantastic terrorists that the politicians just cave in an give up. Who the fuck voted for this bunch of pathetic assholes in the first place? A politician is scared of the terrorists and that means that the people have to give up their freedoms by default? Who woke up and puked in his shoes for that one?
I think these politicians cave in just a little too easily. I think they work a little bit too hard to accomplish the goals of the terrorists. It is just too convenient that the thing the terrorists want is exactly that which the politicians give them. I think some of these poliiticians are bought and paid for by these terrorists. It goes down too easily, too smoothly. There must be collusion of some sort. I cannot explain it otherwise.
I don’t fear terrorists at all. I’ve never seen a terrorist, I have never communicated with one, no terrorist has ever made my life miserable. When my day is fucked up it’s because a politician installed systems and procedures to screw me over. Politicians have harmed me far more, far more invasive and far longer-lasting than any terrorist has ever done.
Terrorists I can live with. Politicians, now there’s a whole different story.
They already have something similar in the UK - called Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) 2000, which requires ISPs to keep customer connection data as above and make it available to a bunch of government agencies should they decide they want it.
The USA = police state
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/PoliceState.html
> Or the terrorists, wanting to destroy our freedoms, win.
Stop repeating this already!
How do you know terrorists want to destroy your freedom? Made lots of terrorist interviews? Why wouldn’t they want to blow up stuff for weird ass reasons of theirs? Please question this assertion.
If someone shoots you because your dog had a leak in their garden, you can’t honestly blame the dog for the bullet.
Your government is taking your freedoms away and terrorisms hasn’t much to do with it: they did it before and they will do it after. That’s what governments do, please don’t give in to their excuses.
Those who don’t learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them - fascism - Naziism - returns again . All be it in a different guise but essentially the same animal !
Well, this is an important matter, so I also participated in this lawsuit. It’s the first of its kind in Germany.
Let’s see where we get with this…
Isn’t there already a law in Germany against “hacker tools”? I think Germany would classify ToR under that category. Who knows, maybe they think SSH is a “hacker tool” as well.
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